1 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:35,180 many years ago I had a first round foul 2 00:00:51,020 --> 00:00:41,770 in my senior administration oh no what 3 00:00:57,570 --> 00:00:51,030 now the single voice said give that idea 4 00:01:08,190 --> 00:00:57,580 hope we do not want to have to explain 5 00:01:14,999 --> 00:01:08,200 to her wealthy alumni in the Midwest why 6 00:01:19,710 --> 00:01:15,009 a Dean of engineering wants to mess with 7 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:19,720 this stuff and it basically has not 8 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:33,850 changed but I moved on and determined to 9 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:43,170 pursue it nonetheless and I had two 10 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:48,970 cabinets maybe three depending on the 11 00:01:58,160 --> 00:01:50,409 environment account 12 00:02:12,990 --> 00:02:06,480 academic studies I wanted to have 13 00:02:15,980 --> 00:02:13,000 someone on full-time appointment in the 14 00:02:21,050 --> 00:02:15,990 engineering school 15 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:21,060 who could oversee the day-to-day 16 00:02:37,770 --> 00:02:29,170 operations much has all our earth don't 17 00:02:44,310 --> 00:02:37,780 not exercises for versatility at 18 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:44,320 Princeton and finally and turned out 19 00:02:54,020 --> 00:02:51,010 most importantly I wanted this person to 20 00:03:01,100 --> 00:02:54,030 be female 21 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:01,110 and to bring with her purse Park theater 22 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:08,290 that only a great female scholar can 23 00:03:21,890 --> 00:03:13,810 bring that required a bit more of a 24 00:03:28,710 --> 00:03:21,900 search but I prevailed and here's it's 25 00:03:32,850 --> 00:03:28,720 an outstanding female scholar of this 26 00:03:38,759 --> 00:03:32,860 time which you are going to be 27 00:03:43,890 --> 00:03:38,769 privileged I believe to hear about other 28 00:03:48,890 --> 00:03:43,900 dimensions other dimensions of the deads 29 00:03:57,860 --> 00:03:48,900 work and which are they will testify 30 00:04:05,070 --> 00:03:57,870 here bring and the essential second 31 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:05,080 compliment to the work I am gonna give 32 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:09,540 bread and I heart Farrell I'm 33 00:04:17,770 --> 00:04:14,290 she's got all sorts of gadgets Aaron 34 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:17,780 employs too 35 00:04:31,770 --> 00:04:23,440 acquaint you with the assistant to it 36 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:31,780 and they and the fun that we have had 37 00:04:45,310 --> 00:04:38,020 pursuing engineering none of my research 38 00:04:49,810 --> 00:04:45,320 together I hope you will enjoy I hope 39 00:04:58,170 --> 00:04:49,820 you a question and I hope you will 40 00:05:01,170 --> 00:04:58,180 appreciate as I have certainly 41 00:05:16,450 --> 00:05:01,180 appreciated 42 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:26,080 I think I'm speaking through several 43 00:05:32,430 --> 00:05:28,610 mics but that's okay I hope you can hear 44 00:05:37,180 --> 00:05:32,440 me thank you so much for the opportunity 45 00:05:39,430 --> 00:05:37,190 to address you this morning you know 46 00:05:44,650 --> 00:05:39,440 it's it's hard to imagine that this is 47 00:05:49,439 --> 00:05:44,660 the 36th annual meeting that means the 48 00:05:53,409 --> 00:05:49,449 society is about 37 or 38 years old 49 00:05:56,620 --> 00:05:53,419 which is about actually a little more 50 00:05:58,839 --> 00:05:56,630 than half my lifetime and that's scary 51 00:06:04,659 --> 00:05:58,849 you could do the math and figure out how 52 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:04,669 old I am but I can remember attending 53 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:06,680 the very first meeting that we had I 54 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:09,289 believe it was in Charlottesville 55 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:13,130 Virginia and it was a very modest 56 00:06:17,350 --> 00:06:15,289 meeting there were maybe a couple of 57 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:17,360 dozen people there and afterwards people 58 00:06:21,430 --> 00:06:19,849 said well that's that I don't know if 59 00:06:25,330 --> 00:06:21,440 we'll ever be able to come up with any 60 00:06:29,409 --> 00:06:25,340 other topics to talk about but here we 61 00:06:32,020 --> 00:06:29,419 are 36 years later and we have a a 62 00:06:34,689 --> 00:06:32,030 wonderful program that bill and his 63 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:34,699 colleagues have put together and we 64 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:37,130 still haven't run out of exciting topics 65 00:06:44,529 --> 00:06:40,550 and we haven't run out of the wonderful 66 00:06:46,589 --> 00:06:44,539 speakers I look out on the audience I 67 00:06:50,589 --> 00:06:46,599 see an awful lot of faces that I 68 00:06:52,959 --> 00:06:50,599 recognized from way back when most of 69 00:06:56,469 --> 00:06:52,969 you as well as I have gotten a little 70 00:07:02,050 --> 00:06:56,479 grayer as the years have gone by but 71 00:07:05,589 --> 00:07:02,060 we're still at it and anyway it's it's 72 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:05,599 just really a terrific pleasure to be 73 00:07:16,060 --> 00:07:10,030 able to celebrate this the spirit of SSD 74 00:07:22,350 --> 00:07:16,070 now I to be honest a we humming is there 75 00:07:32,590 --> 00:07:28,350 can you hear me now all right no I had 76 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:32,600 was a disclaimer technically speaking I 77 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:38,000 was not an SSE founder okay over the 78 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:46,180 which has been an interesting role in 79 00:07:54,460 --> 00:07:50,600 itself as I've watched my young Scouts 80 00:07:59,020 --> 00:07:54,470 grow and mature and gain confidence in 81 00:08:02,469 --> 00:07:59,030 themselves and watch their worldview 82 00:08:05,050 --> 00:08:02,479 evolving and it gave me the opportunity 83 00:08:08,529 --> 00:08:05,060 to be able to nag them and criticize 84 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:08,539 them as only a mother can and I enjoyed 85 00:08:16,659 --> 00:08:12,770 that role immensely I still do but it 86 00:08:21,810 --> 00:08:16,669 was as most of you know a long time ago 87 00:08:26,140 --> 00:08:21,820 when a group of outcasts scholars people 88 00:08:29,610 --> 00:08:26,150 who had scholarly interests in topics 89 00:08:36,279 --> 00:08:29,620 that lay outside mainstream science 90 00:08:40,930 --> 00:08:36,289 topics like reincarnation UFOs the Loch 91 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:40,940 Ness monster psychic phenomena survival 92 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:43,700 I mean weird stuff like that that were 93 00:08:50,380 --> 00:08:47,050 topics that were not accepted within the 94 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:50,390 purview of mainstream journals or 95 00:08:58,150 --> 00:08:55,730 mainstream conferences and they got 96 00:09:00,449 --> 00:08:58,160 together handful of them maybe I don't 97 00:09:02,579 --> 00:09:00,459 know well there may be six or seven 98 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:02,589 originally and they said well you know 99 00:09:09,940 --> 00:09:07,690 if we cannot get together at these 100 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:09,950 scientific meetings why don't we just 101 00:09:16,690 --> 00:09:13,610 have our own and they decided to form a 102 00:09:19,810 --> 00:09:16,700 scholarly society a professional society 103 00:09:24,540 --> 00:09:19,820 that would address topics that lay 104 00:09:27,690 --> 00:09:24,550 outside mainstream competence or 105 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:27,700 three interest the idea was eventually 106 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:30,910 to create a journal which of course we 107 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:33,010 did and most of you have seen it and 108 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:35,890 that too is well along it's a fine 109 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:38,890 quarterly journal it's refereed it's got 110 00:09:45,620 --> 00:09:43,120 some wonderful book reviews we would 111 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:45,630 have annual meetings which we have done 112 00:09:52,139 --> 00:09:48,970 not only in the United States but we've 113 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:52,149 had biennial meetings in Europe which 114 00:09:58,910 --> 00:09:54,250 have also been a success that meant the 115 00:10:07,110 --> 00:10:01,590 unfortunately it has tended to also age 116 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:07,120 and one of our goals for the coming 117 00:10:12,930 --> 00:10:09,850 years is to try to to look to these 118 00:10:16,190 --> 00:10:12,940 succession of sse and to bring more 119 00:10:19,650 --> 00:10:16,200 young people feel more creative 120 00:10:23,490 --> 00:10:19,660 enthusiastic and technologically 121 00:10:25,100 --> 00:10:23,500 sophisticated folks in to lead the 122 00:10:29,970 --> 00:10:25,110 society in the future 123 00:10:32,550 --> 00:10:29,980 but those of you who know me know I'm 124 00:10:36,199 --> 00:10:32,560 fond of telling stories so let me tell a 125 00:10:41,610 --> 00:10:36,209 story a personal story that for me is 126 00:10:45,210 --> 00:10:41,620 kind of a parable for my view of the 127 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:45,220 Society for scientific exploration when 128 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:49,000 I was a kid maybe early adolescence you 129 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:51,040 know that dreadful age when you're 130 00:10:55,560 --> 00:10:53,200 feeling insecure and you just want to be 131 00:10:57,389 --> 00:10:55,570 popular and you don't feel like you fit 132 00:11:00,600 --> 00:10:57,399 in and you're not sure who you are and 133 00:11:04,079 --> 00:11:00,610 all this other stuff I was one of those 134 00:11:06,660 --> 00:11:04,089 I guess I still have 135 00:11:13,530 --> 00:11:06,670 he just got used to it I've even come to 136 00:11:15,329 --> 00:11:13,540 like it but I had a cousin and this 137 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:15,339 cousin was one of the in-crowd 138 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:17,170 he was a couple of years older than I 139 00:11:25,619 --> 00:11:21,040 was and boy I admired her she was so 140 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:25,629 cool she was a cheerleader she hung out 141 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:27,910 she has the best nice clothes and all 142 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:29,230 this other stuff 143 00:11:34,850 --> 00:11:31,689 boy that was what I wanted to be when I 144 00:11:38,069 --> 00:11:34,860 grew up and she had a lot of friends 145 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:38,079 popular who went to parties and I was 146 00:11:46,199 --> 00:11:42,610 sort of on the outskirts looking in in 147 00:11:48,449 --> 00:11:46,209 fact I hung out with a bunch of other 148 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:48,459 misfits who as I look back now I 149 00:11:53,999 --> 00:11:50,889 realized were real honest-to-god 150 00:11:55,319 --> 00:11:54,009 beatniks that gives you again how old I 151 00:11:57,900 --> 00:11:55,329 am 152 00:12:01,290 --> 00:11:57,910 but then people who I enjoy being with 153 00:12:08,309 --> 00:12:01,300 because I could be myself I didn't have 154 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:08,319 to be putting on pretenses trying to fit 155 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:13,529 in but as the years went by and as I 156 00:12:23,999 --> 00:12:17,490 matured as I gained a little more 157 00:12:27,059 --> 00:12:24,009 confidence in myself as I can't became 158 00:12:31,739 --> 00:12:27,069 comfortable being not being one of the 159 00:12:37,259 --> 00:12:31,749 in-crowd I started to look at my cousin 160 00:12:40,259 --> 00:12:37,269 differently and one of my relatives had 161 00:12:42,689 --> 00:12:40,269 once said to me you know your cousin 162 00:12:47,009 --> 00:12:42,699 so-and-so really isn't that bright and 163 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:47,019 boy I defended her she was she was my 164 00:12:51,660 --> 00:12:49,689 model well I came to realize you know 165 00:12:52,910 --> 00:12:51,670 she really wasn't that bright 166 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:52,920 [Music] 167 00:13:02,720 --> 00:12:57,450 she spent all of her effort to creating 168 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:02,730 a facade of sophistication of knowledge 169 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:07,620 ability you know of I'm trying to think 170 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:13,680 of the right term but I came to realize 171 00:13:19,850 --> 00:13:16,529 this was a cover and it was really 172 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:19,860 covering her own insecurities her need 173 00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:21,770 to sort of put me down 174 00:13:30,829 --> 00:13:26,820 subtly really was a way of making 175 00:13:33,950 --> 00:13:30,839 herself feel a little bit superior and 176 00:13:37,340 --> 00:13:33,960 as I looked around to this in crowd the 177 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:37,350 popular kids oh I wanted so much to join 178 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:40,770 I realized you know I don't really want 179 00:13:50,980 --> 00:13:44,610 to be one of them you're fake okay 180 00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:50,990 following the metaphor SSE is sort of a 181 00:14:02,450 --> 00:13:56,040 misfit kid if you want a beatnik 182 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:02,460 organization god I'm dating this was pre 183 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:08,490 hippie mind Jew but it was it when it 184 00:14:15,410 --> 00:14:12,210 started out it too was looking up to the 185 00:14:18,530 --> 00:14:15,420 big kids the popular kids many of the 186 00:14:21,970 --> 00:14:18,540 early council meetings involved how do 187 00:14:26,570 --> 00:14:21,980 we get mainstream science to accept us 188 00:14:30,470 --> 00:14:26,580 how do we get to be published in nature 189 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:30,480 and in science how can we become one of 190 00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:35,550 them of course we learned painfully as 191 00:14:39,980 --> 00:14:37,470 the plan went by that there was no way 192 00:14:44,390 --> 00:14:39,990 we were going to be one of them because 193 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:44,400 we represented a threat to them we were 194 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:48,480 a threat to their their cab salutis okay 195 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:52,920 they're the the the paradigm that 196 00:14:58,610 --> 00:14:55,770 they're represented that could not be 197 00:15:03,210 --> 00:14:58,620 challenged because we were raising 198 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:03,220 questions like well 199 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:05,199 say this way we were raising statements 200 00:15:12,199 --> 00:15:08,459 would me backtrack when when I was 201 00:15:15,059 --> 00:15:12,209 laboratory manager pair we used to have 202 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:15,069 every year for a goal about ten years we 203 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:17,160 would get maybe a hundred or so 204 00:15:22,230 --> 00:15:19,689 ten-year-old kids from a neighboring 205 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:22,240 school district that would come on us 206 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:24,970 field trip and we would show them around 207 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:26,740 the lab we talked a little bit about 208 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:30,550 scientific method about probability and 209 00:15:34,980 --> 00:15:33,100 we were very cautious we were not 210 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:34,990 pushing anomalies we were talking 211 00:15:41,939 --> 00:15:37,769 science and at each of these 212 00:15:43,889 --> 00:15:41,949 convocations I would ask the kids how 213 00:15:44,699 --> 00:15:43,899 many of you want to be scientists when 214 00:15:47,369 --> 00:15:44,709 you grow up 215 00:15:50,970 --> 00:15:47,379 and there usually be a flurry of hands 216 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:50,980 and I'd say you know if you want to be a 217 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:53,230 scientist you have to learn how to say 218 00:16:02,040 --> 00:15:56,980 to very difficult things the first of 219 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:02,050 them is I don't know the second which is 220 00:16:11,510 --> 00:16:07,680 a lot harder is I was wrong 221 00:16:14,060 --> 00:16:11,520 and I remember one lovely little gal who 222 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:14,070 looked at me and said Oh mrs. Dunn I 223 00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:19,050 can't even say that to my brother and I 224 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:23,430 said well I didn't say it was easy but I 225 00:16:31,850 --> 00:16:29,070 do maintain that that principle to this 226 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:31,860 day if you want to be a good scientist 227 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:33,990 you have to be willing to say I don't 228 00:16:41,450 --> 00:16:38,160 know and all of us here are dealing with 229 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:41,460 things that we don't know they are all 230 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:45,480 topics of high uncertainty and you know 231 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:48,930 very little absolute knowledge in fact 232 00:16:54,140 --> 00:16:51,150 maybe the secret to studying anomalies 233 00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:54,150 is that there is no absolute maybe we'll 234 00:16:58,010 --> 00:16:55,560 come to that eventually 235 00:16:59,800 --> 00:16:58,020 I think we've discovered in our pair 236 00:17:02,630 --> 00:16:59,810 research that one of the basic 237 00:17:08,449 --> 00:17:02,640 underlying principles of all of the 238 00:17:10,910 --> 00:17:08,459 anomalies we studied was uncertainty you 239 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:10,920 you have to be able to say I don't know 240 00:17:15,919 --> 00:17:12,750 and you have to be able to concede that 241 00:17:18,260 --> 00:17:15,929 you're wrong without feeling threatened 242 00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:18,270 without feeling is some of our 243 00:17:24,020 --> 00:17:21,120 colleagues and the mainstream scientists 244 00:17:25,819 --> 00:17:24,030 sciences have said to us well if what 245 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:25,829 you're saying is right with with 246 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:28,110 everything I've done in my life is wrong 247 00:17:33,740 --> 00:17:31,170 and I would say well no it's not wrong 248 00:17:34,940 --> 00:17:33,750 it's just not completely they say no you 249 00:17:39,590 --> 00:17:34,950 don't understand 250 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:39,600 it'd be wrong that this scares them it 251 00:17:47,540 --> 00:17:41,760 really does I mean I've seen their faces 252 00:17:49,549 --> 00:17:47,550 I felt their fear many of you have 253 00:17:55,810 --> 00:17:49,559 probably heard this story but I think 254 00:18:03,140 --> 00:17:59,930 symbolic indicators of this was when we 255 00:18:05,410 --> 00:18:03,150 first started our pear lab we didn't 256 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:05,420 have a name for it we were in a 257 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:08,970 reconstituted storage area in the base 258 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,010 the engineering school didn't have a 259 00:18:15,260 --> 00:18:13,440 room number or anything on it and we had 260 00:18:19,340 --> 00:18:15,270 to put something there to indicate that 261 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:19,350 you know this is we're here okay it was 262 00:18:26,810 --> 00:18:22,650 just the lab so I thought I was being 263 00:18:30,380 --> 00:18:26,820 terribly clever and I put a Greek sigh 264 00:18:32,510 --> 00:18:30,390 on the earth I thought sighs great it 265 00:18:35,450 --> 00:18:32,520 stands for psychic phenomena it stands 266 00:18:37,610 --> 00:18:35,460 for paranormal or whatever and it stands 267 00:18:39,650 --> 00:18:37,620 for wave function you know in physics 268 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:39,660 and here we are in an engineering school 269 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:42,930 ovations well the sign was up on the 270 00:18:48,950 --> 00:18:45,960 door for a while and by the third times 271 00:18:51,290 --> 00:18:48,960 he came over and stared at it with 272 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:51,300 terrible terror in their face and said 273 00:18:59,270 --> 00:18:53,910 why do you have a devil's pitchfork on 274 00:19:04,910 --> 00:18:59,280 your door I thought you know this is 275 00:19:07,070 --> 00:19:04,920 gonna be an interesting trip one day I 276 00:19:10,190 --> 00:19:07,080 opened the door to go out somebody was 277 00:19:12,530 --> 00:19:10,200 standing there staring yeah look I 278 00:19:14,690 --> 00:19:12,540 smiled I said no it's not a Devil's 279 00:19:16,250 --> 00:19:14,700 pitchfork it's a Greek letter and they 280 00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:16,260 backed away and said how did you know 281 00:19:30,010 --> 00:19:26,230 at that point we figured maybe we should 282 00:19:32,019 --> 00:19:30,020 take the devil's pitch more corridor so 283 00:19:34,690 --> 00:19:32,029 we took that down we put up one of these 284 00:19:36,909 --> 00:19:34,700 signs for the spiral galaxy and an arrow 285 00:19:41,860 --> 00:19:36,919 that says you are here and I thought 286 00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:41,870 okay week or so later I come in one 287 00:19:45,370 --> 00:19:43,520 morning there's one of these grad 288 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:45,380 students standing there staring at the 289 00:19:53,910 --> 00:19:48,110 door and I walked up and he said you 290 00:19:58,710 --> 00:19:56,520 Wow I said thanks for telling me that I 291 00:20:04,980 --> 00:19:58,720 need to have a misleading sign on the 292 00:20:09,810 --> 00:20:04,990 door and I ripped it off walked into the 293 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:09,820 lab and said where am i what kind of a 294 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:10,960 place is this 295 00:20:16,890 --> 00:20:13,690 these people have no sense of humor they 296 00:20:21,330 --> 00:20:16,900 have no I mean this is this is worse 297 00:20:23,550 --> 00:20:21,340 than never-never-land anyway somewhere 298 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:23,560 along the lines Bob and I have decided 299 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:25,210 that we really needed to have a name for 300 00:20:31,830 --> 00:20:29,920 the lab we went out to lunch one day we 301 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:31,840 were sitting in this restaurant that had 302 00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:34,150 these little you know old tables and 303 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:39,430 fancy whatever's and Bob said to me we 304 00:20:44,250 --> 00:20:40,990 need a name for the lab I've been 305 00:20:46,220 --> 00:20:44,260 thinking about this and what do you 306 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:46,230 think of the idea of Princeton 307 00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:50,170 Engineering anomaly's research and I 308 00:20:55,530 --> 00:20:51,760 listened I said pe 309 00:21:00,300 --> 00:20:55,540 a pair it's an AK we can do better than 310 00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,310 that it doesn't grab me so anyway 311 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:02,880 meanwhile the waitress brings our lunch 312 00:21:07,890 --> 00:21:05,530 Bob says pass the salt 313 00:21:09,810 --> 00:21:07,900 I passed him to reach out to pass him 314 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:09,820 the salt shaker and it's a little pewter 315 00:21:23,019 --> 00:21:20,139 we're talking about it trying to come up 316 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:23,029 with an alternative we finish our lunch 317 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:24,950 the waitress comes back and she said can 318 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:26,809 I interest you folks in some dessert we 319 00:21:35,409 --> 00:21:33,169 have some fresh-baked pancake I said 320 00:21:37,149 --> 00:21:35,419 okay you know I can't fight this because 321 00:21:41,769 --> 00:21:37,159 we're gonna go outside when a pair is 322 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:41,779 gonna get there it is and so at that 323 00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:46,490 point we put a pair up off the door I'm 324 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:50,440 glad we didn't put an apple because 325 00:21:55,899 --> 00:21:53,450 pears are nice fruit I mean it's very 326 00:21:59,169 --> 00:21:55,909 hard to find some negative connotation 327 00:22:01,779 --> 00:21:59,179 to a pear and we had that pear up there 328 00:22:04,029 --> 00:22:01,789 for many years towards the end of the 329 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:04,039 program I actually replaced it 330 00:22:11,230 --> 00:22:08,570 just because my mischievious self 331 00:22:16,629 --> 00:22:11,240 couldn't resist with a picture of a 332 00:22:18,399 --> 00:22:16,639 gingerbread house we had the people got 333 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:18,409 very nervous because we were not 334 00:22:24,460 --> 00:22:20,960 permitted to have students in our in our 335 00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:24,470 laboratory from the University we had 336 00:22:28,330 --> 00:22:26,809 people volunteering and coming by but we 337 00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:28,340 could not take their students we 338 00:22:35,379 --> 00:22:32,779 couldn't teach them and we used to 339 00:22:38,470 --> 00:22:35,389 pretend you know that this was really 340 00:22:41,639 --> 00:22:38,480 the you know the the candy cabin in the 341 00:22:44,879 --> 00:22:41,649 woods you know come in a little child 342 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:44,889 let me tell you some really nasty things 343 00:22:50,289 --> 00:22:47,570 so anyway yeah I couldn't resist 344 00:22:54,129 --> 00:22:50,299 no nobody actually challenged the the 345 00:22:56,769 --> 00:22:54,139 gingerbread house but by that time I 346 00:22:59,230 --> 00:22:56,779 think they were used to us anyway I've 347 00:23:01,539 --> 00:22:59,240 gotten off my track and I have a 348 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:01,549 tendency to do that and I apologize but 349 00:23:08,740 --> 00:23:04,720 let's get back to SSE and I wanted to 350 00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:08,750 bring back this parable as a metaphor 351 00:23:16,810 --> 00:23:12,500 this analogy of my relationship with my 352 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:16,820 cousin and the high school in crowd SSE 353 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:20,450 over the years has has not gained 354 00:23:25,990 --> 00:23:23,690 acceptance we we're not going to until 355 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:26,000 the mainstream can say I was wrong or I 356 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:26,610 don't know 357 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:28,250 there's no way that's going to happen 358 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:32,400 what's gonna happen is that we are going 359 00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:35,490 to be bringing new people in a you know 360 00:23:40,910 --> 00:23:37,740 Max Planck once put it beautifully he 361 00:23:43,220 --> 00:23:40,920 said new ideas you can't change idea 362 00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:43,230 people's ideas you have to wait until 363 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:46,559 the new generation grows up and believes 364 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:48,210 in it in the first place and I'm saying 365 00:23:53,630 --> 00:23:50,850 that all wrong but basically it's been 366 00:23:56,510 --> 00:23:53,640 paraphrased as science changes funeral 367 00:24:02,150 --> 00:23:56,520 by funeral and that is what is happening 368 00:24:04,850 --> 00:24:02,160 gradually there are changes we many 369 00:24:08,090 --> 00:24:04,860 years ago we had a volunteer operator 370 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:08,100 who was a physics grad student not you 371 00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:11,850 you're different one although York was 372 00:24:16,850 --> 00:24:14,460 also I came to us as a physics grad 373 00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:16,860 student for the same reason as this 374 00:24:20,510 --> 00:24:18,900 other one who said you know this is 375 00:24:21,820 --> 00:24:20,520 interesting stuff I've got to see it to 376 00:24:24,919 --> 00:24:21,830 believe it 377 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:24,929 well anyway this one heard Bob speak and 378 00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:30,090 he came by and he said you know I heard 379 00:24:34,940 --> 00:24:32,520 dr. John give a talk about this stuff 380 00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:34,950 and it was really interesting and I went 381 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:37,350 to speak to my adviser who I regard is 382 00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:39,090 one of the most intelligent saying 383 00:24:45,770 --> 00:24:42,900 people I know and he sort of went 384 00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:45,780 ballistic his face turned red his voice 385 00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:47,580 went up but he said oh that's real hot 386 00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:49,590 sites we know that that's impossible and 387 00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:52,440 John is a fraud he said I was really 388 00:24:59,690 --> 00:24:55,440 taken aback by his reaction so I decided 389 00:25:01,880 --> 00:24:59,700 I really needed to see for myself so he 390 00:25:03,710 --> 00:25:01,890 came by he was an operator in our 391 00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:03,720 laboratory for a while 392 00:25:09,650 --> 00:25:06,510 did some experiments graduated went on 393 00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:09,660 and it was quite a few years later that 394 00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:12,480 Roger who of course was also a member of 395 00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:15,540 the Paragon app for many years said to 396 00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:17,640 me and did you see the article is such 397 00:25:23,270 --> 00:25:20,880 an assumption I said no he said well it 398 00:25:27,409 --> 00:25:23,280 seems that there is a new chairman of 399 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:27,419 the physics department at Caltech it's 400 00:25:36,499 --> 00:25:33,450 the guy who was our our operator that's 401 00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:36,509 how we're going to change the system 402 00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:40,169 hey camera bye funeral step by step or 403 00:25:47,539 --> 00:25:43,559 as we used to have a motto in the pair 404 00:25:49,639 --> 00:25:47,549 lab tell the young people we won't go 405 00:25:55,339 --> 00:25:49,649 into where that came from 406 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:55,349 but but that was that was the idea and 407 00:26:01,009 --> 00:25:58,559 that's what SSE is about to tell the 408 00:26:04,099 --> 00:26:01,019 young people there are so many young 409 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:04,109 people so many even the mainstream 410 00:26:08,930 --> 00:26:06,809 scientists who won't admit it but who 411 00:26:13,879 --> 00:26:08,940 are interested in these topics who are 412 00:26:17,989 --> 00:26:13,889 afraid to admit their interests who are 413 00:26:22,699 --> 00:26:17,999 terrified by the that horrible bully man 414 00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:22,709 of what will people think well who cares 415 00:26:28,069 --> 00:26:24,679 what people think 416 00:26:30,889 --> 00:26:28,079 we are real we are authentic and we are 417 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:30,899 willing to admit we are wrong we're 418 00:26:36,889 --> 00:26:34,440 willing to admit we don't know and we 419 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:36,899 need to attract more people and 420 00:26:43,749 --> 00:26:40,169 encourage more young people to be able 421 00:26:46,459 --> 00:26:43,759 to join this wonderful misfit community 422 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:46,469 we won't call the beatniks anymore I 423 00:26:52,489 --> 00:26:48,690 rather like that we all have long hair 424 00:26:58,639 --> 00:26:52,499 and you know dark eye shadow bongo drum 425 00:27:02,059 --> 00:26:58,649 okay was it was cool but but that that's 426 00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:02,069 that's where an assessee has to go we 427 00:27:07,579 --> 00:27:04,199 need we are no longer looking for 428 00:27:11,209 --> 00:27:07,589 approval by by the end crowd by the 429 00:27:13,099 --> 00:27:11,219 popular mood we are the Vanguard we're 430 00:27:16,099 --> 00:27:13,109 out there in front we're leading the 431 00:27:20,209 --> 00:27:16,109 troops where we aren't setting the 432 00:27:23,989 --> 00:27:20,219 future we need beyond the next 433 00:27:25,879 --> 00:27:23,999 generations to follow us and I love all 434 00:27:28,009 --> 00:27:25,889 of you it's you know that's great I look 435 00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:28,019 out but there's a lot of gray heads out 436 00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:33,059 there and up here we need we need more 437 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:41,140 many years ago when I was I was 438 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:45,410 appointed her elected education officer 439 00:27:53,780 --> 00:27:48,930 which I position I held for many years 440 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:53,790 we tried to do to attract more young 441 00:28:01,880 --> 00:27:57,810 people oh he gave reduced membership 442 00:28:04,150 --> 00:28:01,890 fees reduced registration fees we even 443 00:28:08,410 --> 00:28:04,160 offered a prize for the young 444 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:08,420 investigators presentation we had one 445 00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:10,770 winner of that prize I don't think 446 00:28:16,910 --> 00:28:14,070 anybody has since applied we would have 447 00:28:23,930 --> 00:28:16,920 these oh good we don't have another one 448 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:23,940 great all right thank you but this is 449 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:27,090 this is where we have to go I resigned a 450 00:28:32,030 --> 00:28:29,250 couple of years ago Chantal now is the 451 00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,040 education officer and she's carrying on 452 00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:34,080 that tradition and encouraging people 453 00:28:39,530 --> 00:28:36,540 this is why she's holding these lunches 454 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:39,540 and these meetings trying to encourage 455 00:28:45,910 --> 00:28:42,870 young folks to have discussion groups at 456 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:45,920 their colleges and talk to their friends 457 00:28:53,060 --> 00:28:50,490 SSE is willing to bring speakers on 458 00:28:56,330 --> 00:28:53,070 different topics to these groups and 459 00:29:01,850 --> 00:28:56,340 there are a number of groups now if 460 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:01,860 Chantal has a group in California excuse 461 00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:03,810 me Garrett Modell's has a group in 462 00:29:08,270 --> 00:29:06,630 Boulder that get together and talk about 463 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:08,280 and I think there's a couple of others 464 00:29:13,820 --> 00:29:11,490 here and there we need we need more of 465 00:29:16,690 --> 00:29:13,830 that this is where we're going to get 466 00:29:18,550 --> 00:29:16,700 our our new blood we're going to try to 467 00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:18,560 collaborate with other organizations 468 00:29:28,550 --> 00:29:22,980 that have younger enthusiastic people 469 00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:28,560 but who need the more mature experienced 470 00:29:34,850 --> 00:29:32,040 leadership that we can offer we have a 471 00:29:36,380 --> 00:29:34,860 lot to offer we have a great journal we 472 00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:36,390 have great meetings we have great 473 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:39,540 membership and you know I don't know 474 00:29:45,049 --> 00:29:41,130 what I'm doing timewise will somebody 475 00:29:50,330 --> 00:29:45,059 stop me when I write five minutes 476 00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:50,340 okay that's about all I need except I 477 00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:51,840 just lost track of what it was I was 478 00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:58,110 going to say Oh a stroke net you know 479 00:30:06,860 --> 00:29:59,820 getting you know young people and 480 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:06,870 whatever in the involvement in it oh I 481 00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:08,370 know where I was going and this is 482 00:30:15,889 --> 00:30:13,110 terribly important every year at our 483 00:30:17,749 --> 00:30:15,899 council meetings the issues issue has 484 00:30:19,820 --> 00:30:17,759 come up of how do we attract more people 485 00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:19,830 how do we get increase our membership 486 00:30:27,859 --> 00:30:24,809 etc etc and I have a funny position 487 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:27,869 about that I have no aspiration to 488 00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:31,289 seeing SSI have thousands and thousands 489 00:30:35,629 --> 00:30:33,389 of members and loads and loads of money 490 00:30:38,779 --> 00:30:35,639 and have its meetings and parallel 491 00:30:42,409 --> 00:30:38,789 sessions and not know any of the people 492 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:42,419 who are there because for me over these 493 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:45,450 36 annual meetings and I have been to 494 00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:47,850 all but one of them and most of the 495 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:49,470 European ones as well 496 00:30:56,629 --> 00:30:54,090 the real appeal is seeing my friends my 497 00:30:59,060 --> 00:30:56,639 real the real attraction and the 498 00:31:01,310 --> 00:30:59,070 enjoyment of these meetings has been 499 00:31:04,820 --> 00:31:01,320 meeting other people meeting other folks 500 00:31:08,539 --> 00:31:04,830 who are list it's like I am or like we 501 00:31:10,489 --> 00:31:08,549 are people who are looking to share some 502 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:10,499 of their experiences that they can't 503 00:31:15,409 --> 00:31:13,200 talk about it with their faculty they 504 00:31:18,289 --> 00:31:15,419 can't talk about it American Physical 505 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:18,299 Society meetings people who have seen 506 00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:22,190 and heard and done things that are just 507 00:31:32,060 --> 00:31:27,710 walk off the map and who are lonesome 508 00:31:33,980 --> 00:31:32,070 they're feeling very lonely so here we 509 00:31:38,029 --> 00:31:33,990 can get together we can talk about this 510 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:38,039 we know each other you know it's it's a 511 00:31:42,139 --> 00:31:40,110 delight the older I get the harder it is 512 00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:42,149 to remember names but dammit it's great 513 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:43,860 to come in and see faces that I 514 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:44,810 recognize 515 00:31:54,610 --> 00:31:51,530 and and and that really is I think one 516 00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:54,620 of the most critical components of SSE 517 00:32:04,270 --> 00:31:59,210 the community the the the friendships 518 00:32:06,370 --> 00:32:04,280 the places of safety and refuge where we 519 00:32:08,860 --> 00:32:06,380 can go once a year to talk about stuff 520 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:08,870 we can't talk about anywhere else with 521 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:10,730 folks who understand and aren't going to 522 00:32:15,330 --> 00:32:12,650 look at us and go oh my god are you one 523 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:15,340 of those you know you know who look 524 00:32:22,150 --> 00:32:19,760 you've all seen it and I want to 525 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:22,160 encourage that I want to encourage all 526 00:32:27,610 --> 00:32:25,730 of you especially oh it's wonderful to 527 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:27,620 see the only the new folks who are here 528 00:32:32,470 --> 00:32:29,930 for the first time I hope you will come 529 00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:32,480 back I hope you will become involved in 530 00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:35,710 the society volunteer we're a volunteer 531 00:32:42,970 --> 00:32:38,240 organization everything is done by 532 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:42,980 volunteers and whatever skills you have 533 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:46,610 come bring them organized discussion 534 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:49,310 groups at home offered us well I guess 535 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:52,070 we don't lick stamps anymore but then 536 00:32:58,210 --> 00:32:56,480 but the equivalent thereof we can always 537 00:33:00,190 --> 00:32:58,220 use people who maybe could spare a 538 00:33:03,250 --> 00:33:00,200 couple of hours a week or even a couple 539 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:03,260 of hours a month to help out people who 540 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:05,450 could write press releases people you 541 00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:08,090 know there's a lot that SSE could do 542 00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:12,380 there's so much more that we could be if 543 00:33:20,110 --> 00:33:16,670 we all work together you know we used to 544 00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:20,120 have a little sign on the wall pair that 545 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:23,120 said if we all work together we can 546 00:33:30,410 --> 00:33:27,410 totally disrupt the system and I'll 547 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:30,420 leave you with that note thank you 548 00:33:58,310 --> 00:33:49,140 that bob was real out here I just sort 549 00:34:01,560 --> 00:33:58,320 of came along to hold his briefcase it 550 00:34:03,810 --> 00:34:01,570 20:17 founders lectureship Brenda J done 551 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:03,820 in recognition of her innumerable